Allen's criticism is a feeling that, in essence, there is not sufficient openness in the management of the events. He even has the feeling that the process of selections may favor friends of the organizers. Allen has written several posts to the mailing list of the group asking to discuss certain issues about group organization and has been frustrated by lack of response.
My view is that some of Allen's criticisms may be valid, particularly as it relates to the appearance of fairness and openness. On the other hand I have 100% confidence that Scott Heiferman, the group's organizer and also the CEO of Meetup, has nothing but honorable intentions. To that end, today, Scott has called an organizational meeting for the group with the intent of opening a discussion about management, direction, and a larger purpose for the group. I think this direction is commendable.
Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, this discussion has gotten hijacked by perhaps one of the most disgusting and despicable displays I can recollect by a purportedly manistream executive in our business. The details follow.
One of the focal point's of Allen's criticism was that Charles Forman from iminlikewithyou has been allowed to present three times in the last year or so. Interestingly, this was not a criticism of Forman, but of the meetup organizers. Personally, I can understand the organizer's perspective that Forman had something compelling to say. But I also understand the argument that three times in such a short time is too much, and that he was allowed to break the cardinal rule of the meetup which is to actually demo something rather that just show a slide deck. It does seem to me that the rules here should be one size fits all.
Unfortunately, when Forman weighed in with his comments, the discussion went off the rails and was no longer about the merits at all.
Charles Forman left a comment on Stern's post on Silicon Alley Insider that read as follows:
Charles Forman (URL) said:Oct. 13, 5:59 PM
I don't like my name being dropped this many times without a picture of my pretty face attached.
Ah yes. The alley insider is up to rousing rabble for page views from my Google Alerts? Awesome. What's this? Detective Retardo is on the case - the champion of the underdog, and the morbidly obese? Totally fucking awesome.
Did I fail to entertain you? Did I fail to show something interesting? Of
I spent 2 days preparing my presentation so everyone wouldn't be bored to death. I doubt there has been another presenter that has put as much love into their presentations as I have.
Do you not understand what we am trying to do? Of course you do. You know how difficult and truly amazing it is.
I think the real problem is that you are jealous of my ability to run a mile in under 3 days. Maybe its that I date hot girls? Honestly, I don't understand how your beef with me - or your petty, passive aggressive approach.
If you have a problem with fairness, why aren't you paying $20? You very realistically take up 2 seats.
Seriously, if you have such a problem, why don't you just do your own democratic tech meetup and watch as no one shows up?
You are a sad, lonely, disgusting man. I hope you don't die of a coronary before we have a chance to patch things up.
*Kisses*
As far as I am concerned, this is one of the most despicable displays I have ever seen in any supposed professional space. Forman is CEO of a venture funded tech company. And this kind of personally denigrating talk is just shy of the hateful filth spewed by Loren Feldman. But Forman doesn't even have the patina of deniability which might be afforded to someone like Feldman who *claims* to be a comedian. Forman is obviously obsessed with his self-perception of his own physical beauty, but apparently totally tone deaf regarding the perception of his words. Even strategically, to say such things in public, even if you unrepentantly believe and feel them is, if nothing else, incredibly stupid. But then again, Forman doesnt claim to be smart, just capable of dating hot (presumably even more stupid) girls.
And so I have a newsflash for Charles. No matter how many times you appear in Esquire (yes he did), and no matter how many people may reinforce your enormous, but presumably incredibly fragile ego, the truth is crystal clear and cannot be denied. Nothing about your outward appearance can mitigate the reality of an incredibly flawed character. For your investors sake, I hope you can develop some kind of filter, because this is really not a great way to get people to be "in like with you."
