Let's get something straight. No one credible or substantive has said that.
The fact that Mike can't discern the complex and important arguments about this from "people are calling me a racist" is incredible. The other thing he is doing is accusing Soledad O'Brien and CNN of sandbagging and tricking him and accusing them of starting a "race war".
From where I sit, asking him about the black entrepreneurs he knows is nothing of the sort. It's not a crazy question, it's not unfair, and it's certainly not a trigger for or indicia of a race war. In my view, Mike shows his insensitivity to the issue but certainly not ill intent, with the on-camera answers we've seen in the clips. There is a big difference between having a lack of understanding or awareness of the issue and of being a racist.
But what Arrington is doing now is deflecting a hugely important issue and discussion by trying to generate sympathy based on non-existant racism accusations. He is diminishing and minimizing the life experiences of all of us who are arguing with him who, to be honest, have far more experience with this issue than he does (i.e. apparently almost none).
For example one of my housemates in the documentary, and the co-organizer of the NewMe accelerator, Wayne Sutton, was stopped this summer by the Mountain View police at night and checked for warrants for doing nothing more than walking down the street and being black. The police's after-the-fact excuse for the stop was "they didn't recognize him" and it was a "voluntary" stop. For those of you who may not realize, this is *very* common. I've been stopped three times by the police for just walking around.
But the biggest problem I have right now with Arrington is, to bend an old political cliché for my own purposes, the coverup is far worse than the crime. What Mike is now spewing is really bad because it shows him to be either purposefully or "in the fog of war" dishonest. I think the "they are calling me racist" defense is intellectually dishonest, but some of the specifics he uses to defend himself are flat out lies.
In his latest post, Mike characterizes my last post by saying I am criticizing him because his coverage of NewMe or African-American entrepreneurs was not enough.
Specifically what Mike's post says is:
While it’s easy to look around Silicon Valley and see very few (non Asian because they don’t count!) minorities and then conclude “you’re a bunch of racists,” I don’t think that’s productive. What I do think is productive is to get more minorities, and women, and everyone, focusing on math and science and computers in school, as early as possible.
Once they’re here they are welcomed with open arms.
The top ten, or so, reasons I’m a racist
Unless their ideas suck. And even if they do suck a little, at TechCrunch we’d write about it anyway to give exposure to these entrepreneurs. That’s another source of endless criticism.
Or the coverage wasn’t good enough.
Or that putting people on stage who didn’t strictly deserve it is racist because it makes people think that they’re only on stage because of their race.
But either way, unless we cover more minorities, we’re racist.
First, the link in the block quote above is to my last piece. And the implication (though I admit it is murky) is that my post accuses him of racism because he doesn't cover enough African-American entrepreneurs.
The part that is *very* clear is his representation that my piece accuses him of not sufficiently covering African-American entrepreneurs.
The best defense of this comes from Natrius on Hacker News who said:
Hank said nothing of the sort. He said there is no proof that Arrington goes out of his way to cover black founders as he had claimed. Hank didn't say Arrington should go out of his way, nor did he call Arrington a racist. Hank just said that Arrington's claim was incorrect, and from where I'm sitting, he's right.
And just to back up what Natrius said, here's a big hunk of the text from my last post where I specifically say the *opposite* of how Arrington characterizes my post:
Either way, Mike was within his rights to decide what he would or would not cover, or how he would cover it, and at what depth. He does not owe any person of color or female entrepreneur or anyone else anything. But to, after the fact, say that he bent over backwards to cover African American entrepreneurs is laughable.
Does this make Mike a bad guy? No. I presume in actuality, he wasn't even involved in the editorial process. So I won't blame him for the uncharacteristic lack of depth of demo day coverage. But I sure as hell am not going to let him claim credit for somehow being some kind of bend-over-backwards-to-cover-African-American-entrepreneurs kind of guy. Let's get real.
So to conclude, no one is accusing Arrington of being a racist. But it's clear he is (or at least his writing reflects him to be) incredibly insensitive to issues of race and privilege. No one imagines him sitting around spewing racial epithets or purposefully discriminating, or even thinking bad racial thoughts, but that is not a very high bar.
Mike, it would be great if you'd put an end to this pity party and join us in real discussion as you suggest you would like to. Most of us engaged in this debate are pretty reasonable people and if you really do want to "do something" as you suggest, now is a great time to work on it with us. And yes I've heard you want to work with will.i.am on the issue, so you can bring him too.
What I don't understand is why anyone cares about Arrington. When he's not relating factual information, he's basically the crazy guy on the corner screaming his head off about stuff that no one cares about. Lately, he hasn't reported many facts. I stopped reading anything written by him unless it looked like basic startup PR announcement.
ReplyDeleteTed,
ReplyDeleteNo one would care if he'd stop making wild accusations.
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ReplyDeleteAt first I thought Arrington just couldn't see the issue for whatever reason. Now it appears that he is flat out choosing not to see it while focusing just on the "I'm a racist" part. It really does a disservice to the issue. He sees a meritocracy in silicon Valley? He really needs to open up his eyes a bit to look beyond his own little bubble. If SV was really a meritocracy this entire conversation would be unnecessary.
ReplyDeleteI must say I don't understand either. Arrington is not the problem, is a symptom and Soladt is hardly a journalist. It's a shame that such an important subject is being discussed in relation to these two.
ReplyDeleteThis is an important conversation.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I've sussed in my 40 black years is that white people don't generally have any sense of nuance when issues of race come up. When you don't have to deal with race, how could anyone really expect you to understand it? It's all very either/or. Racist or not racist, period. I'm sure more than one person reading the first sentence in this comment immediately thought I was calling them a racist.
ReplyDeleteIt's a pain in the ass. I don't feel like trying to explain it all to people who've had the luxury of not caring but if you want to live and thrive in a world largely run by the don't-have-to-carers
"No one imagines him sitting around spewing racial epithets or purposefully discriminating, or even thinking bad racial thoughts, but that is not a very high bar."
ReplyDeleteI think that's the central point of contention. That used to be *the* bar. A lot of people- and not all of them white- think that it remains a sufficient bar.
The case that it's not good enough hasn't been accepted by a majority of the American public, I would guess. It's similar to the distinction between negative and positive constitutional rights. Most people accept the negative requirements that they shouldn't discriminate, and shouldn't spew racial epithets, and shouldn't think bad racial thoughts (quite apart from their ability to follow through on these). But many people don't accept the idea that there's a positive requirement that they should be actively, "go out of your way to be" inclusive, inviting, accommodating, sensitive, etc. And they entirely reject the notion that not to do these things is racist.
(damn phone)... you are often left with little choice.
ReplyDeleteI've never met Arrington and don't read TC but I'm inclined to write this off as a guy with a megaphone, and a propensity for using it, feeling confused about race and perhaps a little guilty when suddenly realizing his role in the state of affairs in the valley.
Brian ... I think most peoplethink they should go out of their way to be supportive...for anyone white or black. The fact that I don't act positively required just says I'm me centric...not race centric
ReplyDeleteDamn, when black ppl will be able to INVENT new tech stuff and not to barely follow, they'll be leading the way. In the meantime, concentrate on basket ball...
ReplyDeleteUS basket ball team: where are the whites?http://www.google.fr/imgres?q=us+basket+ball+team&um=1&hl=fr&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=635&tbm=isch&tbnid=TYM_0e1Z3aBDqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.cnbc.com/id/25513177/USA_Basketball_Team_Photo_Artistic_Or_Logo_Conspiracy&docid=iES07ICYx3B6QM&imgurl=http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/__Story_Inserts/graphics/__SPORTS/__N-Z/USA_basketball_team.jpg&w=500&h=400&ei=iUOzTuHAKJHZ8QOtqqn-BA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=360&vpy=183&dur=262&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=126&ty=87&sig=111223430245610154713&page=1&tbnh=123&tbnw=181&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0
"James Bomb said... Damn, when black ppl will be able to INVENT new tech stuff and not to barely follow..."
ReplyDeleteBetter yet let's zoom out and ask the more important question that is the reason this conversation exists in the first place.
Damn, when will black people become active first-rate producers in the world economy instead of assumed consumers. When will black people begin to think sovereignty minded about their own fate in the world as a community rather than accept and repeat narrative designed for them by those who aren't them for the purpose of profit...
I am a black man, and a software engineer (15 years), for a major medical system (presently), and I look at my people every day and yearn for a time when employee-mindedness gives way to global competitive-mindedness and we enter the fray in a significant and sustained way.
I don't slight other people for succeeding in Silicon Valley. So often we are looking for solidarity from people who have no stake in being in union with us. Unfortunately, we have not thought to control our own communal narrative (via our own life decisions) to the point where the phrase "You all don't make good CEOs" isn't a reasonable if slightly tilted/off hypothesis for our absence as a force of competition in the global marketplace.
Dan,
ReplyDeleteYou are the poster child for what you are complaining about. A better question might be "when will self hating black people learn how to write in the english language".
Hank,
ReplyDeleteIn plain English, I'm not hating (self or otherwise). Seriously. Why do you attack people who come to your forum to discuss things that seem to interest all of us.
I happen to agree with a lot of the things I hear you talk about on this blog. And was excited to find it in the first place.
It's a conversation, Hank. Albeit a public one, and you could argue that there are possibly better places to have it. But that comment wasn't the best way to further the conversation.
You just took it there, unnecessarily I might add. If you are offended by my post then I invite you ( as some one with some experience concerning competitive drive in the global marketplace ) to discuss the issues I'm raising in it and possibly help a lot more people than just me. And if its an issue you feel unfit for discussion - then, indeed that's your opinion. I'd rather you had said that ...
That would be a lot more productive than insulting me publicly out of frustration, or whatever motive caused you to write that in the first place.
But thank you for responding at least...
Dan,
ReplyDeleteYou supported a racist whacko (who I leave up so people can see the vile comments) who basically said we should all be playing basketball. If you don't understand how ridiculous that is for you to be doing then you certainly deserve no additional consideration.
Hank I'm not supporting him,
ReplyDeleteI'm IGNORING him,
which is what he deserves!
And in the process I am changing the subject trying to discuss something that actually matters.
Screw him, he's irrelevant.
How about we talk about something that can actually get at the subject of this blog entry.
That's what my intent was.
Just because my comment merely comes after his does not mean support.
Your condescension isn't necessary here.
Can we change the subject then ?
Dan,
ReplyDeleteIf I misunderstood you then I'm sorry.
It seemed (I guess incorrectly) that you were agreeing with him which offended me mightily.
I see/understand. (Sorry, I ignored him completely -Because he was a whacko- and this is the internet and that's how it goes on the internet) ...
ReplyDeleteNo not at all. No support intended.
:-) With that in mind, though, given your experiences this summer. What's your opinion on my original post ?
Dan,
ReplyDeleteThere are a variety of issues that include both the supply and the demand. They are intertwined. When I refer to supply I mean that, of course, more of us need to pursue engineering. There are plenty of us in Law and Business and Medicine, but not enough in engineering.
Part of the supply issue is also the woeful state of our inner city public school education system. My wife is a phd/professor in a school of education and I get a first hand look at how bad things are.
On the demand side, we do need more access. The tech world is clubby for a bunch of rational reasons. As I am really a part of that clubbiness having been in the industry a long time I understand it. But that does not make that fact problematic when it comes to diversity. I believe awareness is a key part of fixing the insular nature. I do believe that more of us need to become entrepreneurs, but that we also need more equal access to capital. The problem is that because what black wealth we do have has not come from tech we have no base of black investors.
As far as entrepreneurship, there are plenty of black entrepreneurs, its just that very few of us are *tech* entrepreneurs. It will take some effort to turn it around but if we focus, I feel confident we can.
I understand what you mean by clubbiness.
ReplyDeleteOk, so say we fast forward, and somehow solve the supply-side of the issue. Which I think is easier to address than the demand side.
( You offer a viable/feasible/sustainable route to training/employment/journeyman-ship/entrepreneurial mentorship/etc and then systematize & reproduce it and the problem I believe can be addressed - everybody seeks a good oppurtunity for themselves, so just find those whose propensity for tech fit - Not Easy but I see the path you are implying )
That's supply-side.
Business to business demand is the real sustainable bread and butter and we (black people) don't play in that space presently.
Are you saying that that space should be organically grown and developed in parallel with the supply side ? If so, what are some ways you see to encourage -that- to happen ?
If not, then we are talking the same corporate positioning philosophy that has been going on for some time at this point.
How does that work? Is that really sustainable going forward ? The world/rules of the game are changing in serious ways (for everyone in tech) presently, I don't feel like we are keeping up.
So how does that part of demand-side work in your opinion?
Dan,
ReplyDeleteIts interesting. You misinterpreted, or I should say I was unclear when I talked about demand. But your interpretation is just as valid as mine. I was referring to investment and hiring. You were talking about procurement. I don't know much about the b2b world because I've always been more of a consumer guy. Consumers dont care about the ethnicity of the people behind the product. That may be more of an issue in b2b.
What I was thinking about was that our wealthy folks need to invest in technology businesses just as they do in media and sports and other service businesses. We just need more of a footprint in this part of the investment universe.
Hmm, ok I see where you are going.
ReplyDeleteBut that seems to go against the very nature of what you described concerning the broader investment community in -Arrington, Race, and Silicon Valley - ...
"People, for the most part, want to work with people that are “like them” or that fit a pattern that appeals to them. There is an actual term for this among tech investors called “pattern matching”."
Black Zuckerbergs don't exist. So how does existing Black wealth pattern match ? It's not just the money, it's the business navigation and industry acumen, and networking opportunities that come with pre-established relationships in that community - made available during successive rounds of funding. But... there is no "community"
So then you are encouraging hyper-development on the supply-side to create a demand-side after they endure the same "terminator" type process you had to go through?
Would seems our only alternative in your argument, but it's daunting. Especially given the hating tendencies we have.
Wealth doesn't mean like mindedness, or maturity, let alone trust. A superior product or service is a start sure but isn't pattern matching very much needed ?
Had this thought on the way home. Perhaps an alternative approach...
ReplyDeleteUse the existing strengths in media (Like the CNN special, and other outlets) to promote crowdsourced funding:
( see http://www.profounder.com/ )
This would put the burden of investment on the marketing aspect of the entrepreneur's business plan.
Regarding My Last Post
ReplyDeleteOn November 3, 2011 - HR 2930
Crowdfunding Bill Passes House, 407-17
( http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-2930 )
Perhaps waiting for wealthy people to get on board will not be necessary after all, we may all be able to take part in answering the problems in the investment community ...
http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/running_small_business/archives/2011/11/paving_the_way_for_crowdfunding.html
https://plus.google.com/117388252776312694644/posts/jN7KBDhVw8n#117388252776312694644/posts/jN7KBDhVw8n
For 24 years I've waited for an open dialog on this topic. In 24 years of very nomadic consulting, dozens of early tech companies, Fortune 100 clients, hundreds of teams... I've worked with one African American male in a development role and six women across thousands of tech employees.
ReplyDeleteI'm busy building my own company, which launched recently, so my head has been down for months and out of the press but I hope to see this dialog continue and lead to positive outcomes.
Erik / Richmond, CA
I couldn't give less of a shit about Mike Arrington but we need to hear more of this and then we need to get into specifics. Because it breaks my heart and angers me so much that we're wasting the creativity and energy of people because of their skin/background. It's so horrifying that you're "stopped just for walking around". And while I've heard stories like this before, I just try to imagine and it's chilling to think of being afraid like that every where you go that you might be arrested wrongfully.
ReplyDeleteNow we need to get into specifics. How can we be more accommodating? How can we make our communities more diverse? I'm involved in an open source community and I would love to see more people *of all kinds*. But I want to know specifically -how to invite young black people into web development and open source.
Also I'm a white woman and live in Belfast, N. Ireland so the situation here is slightly different. But I work in an international community.
i appreciate this comment thread as much as the original article. I can attest to the crowdfunding route. I am currently in my second crowdfunding campaign and find that it seems to be the most viable long term route to funding my projects that i have investigated. i believe that the bigger goal is to impress upon people, the need to support these crowdfunding efforts, which will take alot of work but much less work than trying to appear viable in an existing culture of exclusion.
ReplyDeletecrowdfunding, combined with moving to berlin (cops have never even looked at me let alone stopped me in the 3 years I've lived here) give me a very optimistic outlook on future business prospects.